IS CHOY-LI-FATT UNIQUE OR A SPECIALIZATION WITHIN SOUTHERN SHAOLIN?

Chio-Li-Fatt Kungfu

Chen Harng, the founder of Choy-Li-Fatt Kungfu



Question

How has Choy Li Fatt evolved since its conception? Does it have techniques, methods or tactics that are truly unique or is it more a specialization within southern Shaolin Kungfu?

-- Tapio Raevaara


Answer

I believe the First Patriarch of Choy-Li-Fatt Kungfu, Chen Harng, did not set out to invert a new style of kungfu. As he had learnt form three Shaolin masters, namely Choy Ah Fook, Li Yau San and the Venerable Cheng Chao, he spontaneously combined the best of these three styles in his training, which resulted in Choy-Li-Fatt.

This is like what is happening in our school today. I did not consciously pick patterns from the kungfu of Sifu Ho Fatt Nam and Uncle Righteousness and combined them to invent Wahnam Kungfu. In my training I spontaneously selected the best of what I had learnt from my two masters without a conscious effort to combine the two styles. I also selected the best from the Wuzu Kungfu and Wing Choon Kungfu I had learnt from my other two masters, Sifu Chee Kim Thong and Sifu Choe Hoong Choy. We call our style Shaolin Kungfu. It is only other people who call it Wahnam Kungfu.

The answer to whether Choy-Li-Fatt has techniques, methods or tactics that are unique, or is it a specialization within Southern Shaolin is "yes" and "no".

On the whole, Choy-Li-Fatt is unique. It is different from Choy-Ka Kungfu, Li-Ka Kungfu and Fatt-Ka Kungfu, from which it evolved. In other words, if a group of practitioners perform Choy-Ka Kungfu, Li-Ka Kungfu, Fatt-Ka Kungfu and Choy-Li-Fatt Kungfu, an informed observer can tell which is which.

Yet, all the movements in Choy-Li-Fatt Kungfu can be found in Choy-Ka Kungfu, Li-Ka Kungfu and Fatt-Ka Kungfu. Actually most of Choy-Li-Fatt patterns are from Fatt-Ka Kungfu, which in turn was evolved from Lohan Kungfu. Chen Harng did not invent new patterns to compose Choy-Li-Fatt. It is an example of the whole is more than its parts.

We can find an interesting parallel in our school. The Shaolin Kungfu we practice in Shaolin Wahnam is quite different from the Shaolin Kungfu practiced at the southern Shaolin Temple in Quanzhou (which I learned from Sifu Ho Fatt Nam), and also different from the second southern Shaolin Temple on the Nine-Lotus Mountain (which I learned from Uncle Righteousness). Yet, the Shaolin patterns we practice in Shaolin Wahnam are taken from the Shaolin patterns at the two Shaolin Temples at Quanzhou and Nine-Lotus Mountain.

There is a third important influence in the Shaolin Kungfu we practice, and it is from Taijiquan. Our Shaolin Kungfu is more internal and more flowing than that at Quanzhou and Nine-Lotus Mountain. Nevertheless, Taijiquan evolved from Shaolin.

-- Grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit


Chio-Li-Fatt Kungfu

An old picture of Fatt-Ka practiti0ners


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The above is reproduced from the thread 20 Questions for Grandmaster: Choy-Li-Fatt and Kungfu against Other Styles in the Shaolin Wahnam Discussion Forum.

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