Baguazhang, Pakua Kungfu

Grandmaster Wong demonstrating Baguazhang Circle Walking


As mentioned in the History & Philosophy of Baguazhang Circle Walking, Sigung used a variety of sources for researching the art in his preparation for the course. Could Sigung give a few words on which sources he found the most useful and what sort of misinformation about Baguazhang exists?

A related question I have is how useful would a study of the classical Baguazhang literature, the "Songs" and "Methods" of Baguazhang, be for us? How should we reconcile some of the "Songs" and "Methods" which might seem contradictory to the way we do things in Shaolin Wahnam, such as the mentions of "keeping the mouth closed" and "breathing only through the nose"? Are there certain "Songs" and "Methods" that are particularly useful for us modern practitioners of Baguazhang?

An English translation and commentary of the "Songs" and "Methods" of Baguazhang by Master Liang Shou-Yu (co-author with Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming of Emei Baguazhang) can be found here.

Frederick Chu


Unlike Shaolin Kungfu, there are not many classics about Baguazhang. The following are the classics I used, all in Chinese and listed in the order of importance in the amount of material derived for use in the Baguazhang course at UK Summer Camp 2012. Some of them are modern publication based on classical material. The translation of the authors' names is based on Cantonese pronunciation.

  1. True Transmission of Baguazhang by Sun Sek Fong
  2. Study of Bagauzhang by Sun Lu Tang
  3. Secret Classic of Baguazhang edited by Lau Heng Hon
  4. Illustrated Explanation of Bagazhang by Yim Tak Wah
  5. Internal School of Baguazhang by Ngai Cheng Woh
  6. Bagauzhang and Baguazhang Combat edited by Chang Fen Poi, Chun Yu Choong, Loh Hoong Shun
  7. Specific Techniques of Bagua by Cheong Hoe Chun and Fei Sek Weng

However, the relative lack of classical source is compensated by the abundance of internet material, some of which is very useful but much is mediocre and a few is misleading.

Here is a brief description of the Chinese sources.

True Transmission of Baguazhang describes the eight "mother palms", some combat applications and Baguazhang weapons like the sword, the exotic drake-duck spade, the crescent-moon spear, the Guan Dao and the spear. It emphasizes moral values, discusses internal and external, soft and hard aspects, and distinguishes between low-level practitioners and high-level practitioners. Low-level practitioners merely perform patterns, whereas high-level practitioners understand their principles.

Some basic principles are mentioned as follows.

Beginners should move with small steps, hooking the foot in each step. Each step must be sure-footed so that the body will not be shaky. Start slowly, gradually become fast. All movements should be smooth and fluid.

There are three stages in circle walking. At the first stage, movements are large and the posture is high. At the intermediate stage, practitioners should lower their posture. At the third stage, the posture is low and movements small and fast.

This classic pays much attention to footwork, affirming the saying that "30% of victory lies in the hands, 70% lies in the feet." It also mentions that many kicking techniques are hidden.

There is one significant difference between the advice given here and our practice. Here, it is advised that breathing in and out is through the nose with the mouth close. But we breathe in through the nose and breathe out through the mouth. At an advanced stage, we do not worry about the breathing.

Baguazhang, Pakua Kungfu

Grandmaster Wong demonstrating Baguazhang Circle Walking

It is interesting that Study of Baguazhang mentions that Baguazhang incorporates Eighteen-Lohan Fist and Seventy Two Kicking Techniques, which are from Northern Shaolin. Hence, if you find Shaolin Kungfu in Baguazhang, it is no surprise.

The classic explains how One-Energy transforms to Two-Aspects, then to Four-Forms, which are philosophical description of how the eight "mother palms" are performed. Practitioners begin with the Wuji Stance and are in tune with the Cosmos, described as One-Energy. They move to the typical Baguazhang pattern, "Green Dragon Tests Claw", turning the hands in one direction and rotating the waist in another direction, described as Two-Aspects. Then they thread their hands up and down, and separate them on two sides, as at the start of Baguazhang circle walking, described as Four-Forms.

The eight mother-palms at various positions of the octagon structure are characterized as lion, unicorn, snake, cockerel, dragon, bear, phoenix and monkey.

It is worthy of note that the classic mentions that these animal-forms are performed at the various gua or trigrams, or various positions in the ocatgen structure, and not that the various trigrams symbolize these animal-forms. Due to linguistic factors, this distinction is not clearly made in Chinese.

In fact, in Chinese a literal translation of the relevant description is as follows:

Qian is the head, kun is the stomach, zhen is the feet, xun is the hips, kan is the ears, li is the eyes, gen is hands, dui is the mouth.

Qian, kun, zhen, xun, kan, li, gen and dui are the gua or trigrams which form the octagon, or Bagua, from which the term Baguazhang derives.

The classic goes on to say that in kungfu, in literal translation, qian is lion, kun is unicorn, zhen is dragon, xun is phoenix, kan is snake, li is crane, gen is bear, and dui is monkey.

What is meant here is that at the position in an octagon known as qian, the lion form is performed, and at kun the unicorn form, etc. It does not mean qian is a lion or represents a lion, as many people interpret it to be.

The practice of linking some aspects to some philosophical terms is not uncommon in kungfu culture. For example, in Xingyiquan the five elemental fists of pi-quan (literally chopping fist, figuratively thrust palm), zuan-quan (spiral fist), beng-quan (crushing fist), pao-quan (cannon fist) and heng-quan (literally diagonal fist, figuratively horizontal chop) are related to the five elemental processes of metal, water, wood, fire and earth.

But I do not see much meaning in the relationship, or I may not have learnt its hidden meaning yet.

I suspect, for example, that because the technique, which is thrusting a palm out, is called pi-quan, literally meaning chopping fist, and chopping is related to an axe chopping, and an axe is made of metal, pi-quan is said to relate to the elemental process of metal. But we could also explain that as the movement of a palm thrust is like water, this technique should be related to the process of water.

In the Five Elemental Fists of some Hoong Ka schools, for example, the five patterns "Cross-Road Separate Gold", "Throw Ball in Waves", "Clamp Wood Fist", "Eight-Tenth Arrow Punch" and "Thousand Tons to Ground" are related to the five elemental processes of metal, water, wood, fire and earth.

Either I am ignorant of its deeper meaning or some masters forced relationship between patterns and the elemental processes. Except for the last pattern, "Thousand Tons to Ground", which can be justified to relate to the elemental process of earth as the movement of the technique is downwards, which is represented by the earth process, I do not find much significance in the relationship in the other patterns.

Following this principle of relationship due to its process, the pattern, "Throw Ball in Waves", despite its name, should be related to fire as the movement of the technique is upward, which is represented by the fire process.

Indeed, masters commenting on the relationship generally say that because the pattern is called "Cross-Road Separate Gold", it is related to metal, and because the pattern is called "Clamp Wood Fist", it is related to wood. "Clamp Wood Fist" is also named "Close Iron Gate". Can we then relate the same pattern to metal because of its name?

Returning to "Study of Baguazhang", Sun Lu Tang concludes the classic with a brief discussion of the unity of pre-natal energy and post-natal energy, and the returning of the spirit to the Great Void.

Baguazhang, Pakua Kungfu

Grandmaster Wong demonstrating Baguazhang Circle Walking

Secret Classic of Baguazhang is a modern publication edited by Lau Heng Hon based on classical material. This is a huge book covering many aspects of Baguazhang, including history, philosophy, basic techniques, unarmed sets, weapon sets, secret songs and formulae, and stories of Baguazhang masters. This is a treasure for Baguazhang lovers.

This "Secret Classic of Baguazhang" is very rich. The following are just some random examples.

Regarding philosophy, the classic lists "three harms" which should be avoided as follows:

  1. Muscular strength
  2. Angry chi
  3. Lifted chest, sunken abdomen

It is interesting to note that "lifted chest, sunken abdomen", which is taboo in internal arts, is encouraged in Shaolin Kungfu, especially those who practice external forms. Tying a sash around the waist is an example. Practitioners take a deep breath resulting in raising their chest and sinking their abdomen, then tie a sash tightly round their waist to keep the chest lifted and abdomen sunk.

As lungs are regarded as organs for energy, this enlarging of the chest cavity gives practitioners strength and vitality, which is proven true in real life. Internal martial artists do not tie a sash as Shaolin practitioners do. They relax their chest and let chi sink to their dan tian.

The classic mentions that the "eight trigrams" or bagua from which the name Baguazhang derives, are represented in the body as follows:

  1. Qian is represented by shoulders, elbows and wrists, symbolized by the three unbroken lines of qian.
  2. Kun is represented by hips, knees, feet, symbolized by the three broken lines of kun.
  3. Li is represented by the sternum, symbolized by the broken middle line of li.
  4. Kun is represented by chi-filled abdomen, symbolized by the unbroken middle line of kun.
  5. Zhen is represented by eyes looking horizontally, symbolized by the two broken upper lines of zhen.
  6. Gen is represented by head uplifted, symbolized by the two unbroken upper lines of gen.
  7. Dui is represented by gently closing the mouth with the tongue placed upward at the palate, symbolized by the broken top line of dui.
  8. Xun is represented by lifting up the anus, symbolized as the broken bottom line of xun.

Here is an example of either I fail to see the deeper meaning of the relationship or past masters forcing relationship between the eight trigrams and bodily parts. One could also reasonably argue that qian should be represented by the head as it is the top-most of our body and qian symbolizes heaven.

The classic is very rich in songs and secret formulae. The following is an example on the three external harmonies of feet, body and hands.

Illustrated Explanation of Bagazhang consists of pictures showing 64 sequences of Bagauzhanng combat applications with brief descriptions. The first sequence, Thrust Palm, is similar to the first few techniques of our first combat sequence in Swimming Dragon.

Although the applications are illustrated, it is difficult for readers, even those who practice Baguazhang, to follow them because the illustrations show only established postures and transitional movements are often missing. The descriptions, like most descriptions on kungfu movements, are inadequate to describe the actual movements. Nevertheless, this short-coming is readily overcome by modern facilities. If you log onto YouTube, you can find a lot of Baguazhang applications clearly shown in videos.

Baguazhang, Pakua Kungfu

Grandmaster Wong demonstrating Baguazhang Circle Walking

Internal School of Baguazhang is concise, and many readers may not understand it if they do not have background knowledge. Many of the explanations may appear trite and although they refer to Baguazhang in particular, they can often be found in other philosophical works. These descriptions explain important principles precisely. The following is an example.

As the title of the classic suggests, it focuses on the internal aspect of Baguazhang. It explains that there are eight internal palms, and eight external palms. The eight internal palms represent the body of Baguazhang, the eight external palms represent its application and are full of variations.

The classic explains as follows:

The eight internal palms are so-called not because they have no external forms but because they are meant to develop internal force. It is like what we did in the Baguazhang course at the UK Summer Camp of 2012, internal force training using various Baguazhang postures and circle walking.

The eight internal palms described in this classics are as follows:

  1. Floating Wood Palm -- the arms are held horizontally like in Lifting Water.
  2. Moving Clouds Palm -- the arms are held high like in Embracing the Sun.
  3. Spiral Turning Palm -- One arm is held at eye level and the other arm at shoulder level, like in Lion Opens Mouth.
  4. Up-Down Palm -- One hand held straight is pointing skyward, and the other hand also held straight is pointing downward, as in Point Sky Jab Ground.
  5. Embracing Clouds Palm -- Both arms are held as if holding a huge ball, like in Unicorn Embracing Moon.
  6. Thread-Shuttle Palm -- like in the pattern Jade Girl Threads Shuttle.
  7. Throw-Step Palm -- Moving as if performing Green Dragon Shoots Pearl
  8. Wind-Wheel Palm -- Start with holding a pearl, then push one hand out

The eight external palms are similar to the eight mother-palms we learned at the Baguazhang course for circle walking, as follows.

  1. Single Changing Palm.
  2. Double changing Palm.
  3. Smooth Posture Palm
  4. Triple-Thread Palm
  5. Back-Body Palm
  6. Circulate Body Palm
  7. Turn Body Palm
  8. Return Body Palm

Baguazhang, Pakua Kungfu

Grandmaster Wong demonstrating Baguazhang Circle Walking

Baguazhang and Baguazhang Combat is a modern publication edited by modern masters based on classical material.

It includes the Thirty Six Songs mentioned by Frederick. The first song translated from this classic is as follows:

This song describes how the basic Baguazhang pattern, "Green Dragpm Tests Claw", should be performed. "Tiger's mouth" refers to that part of the palm between the thumb and the index finger.

There are two differences between what is advocated here and how we practice. We do not grip the ground with our toes; we let our chi flowing down to root us to the ground. Secondly, we need not look through the tiger's mouth. We do not even look at an opponent, but sense him with our all-pervading mind.

The advice above is given to beginners. Gripping the ground with their toes will make them more stable. Looking through the tiger's mouth will help them to focus.

We are at a more advanced level, even for those of our students who learn Bagauzhang the first time. We can let chi flow to the ground rooting us, which is not only more stable but also enable us to have unity of chi flow. We can expand our mind so that it covers not only an opponent's movements but also his intentions. Other practitioners do not have these abilities.

The book also lists other Baguazhang priniples, like "three hearts", "nine strengths", and "nine requirements".

The "three hearts" or three centres are the abdomen as the focused centre, the eyes as the sensing centre, the head as the function centre, and the hands and legs as the operating centre.

We have surpassed the above advice. Our whole being is one heart or one mind. Not only our abdomen is charged with chi, our whole being is charged with chi. We do not just sense with our eyes, function with our head and operate with our hands and legs, we can do all these with any part of our body.

The "nine strengths" are stretch-up strength, lift strength, sweeping strength, struggle strength, horizontal strength, spring strength, inside strength, turning strength and united strength. We also have surpassed these nine strengths. Our body is just one strength or one energy, which can be employed to perform work done by any one of these nine strengths and more.

The "nine requirements" are that the waist is to be lowered, that chi is to be sunk, that the anus has to be lifted, that the tongue is to touch the palate, that the elbows are to be in, that muscles and joints are to be relaxed, that the shoulders are to be dropped, that the body is to be retracted, and that the palms are to thread.

Baguazhang, Pakua Kungfu

Grandmaster Wong demonstrating Baguazhang Circle Walking

Again we have surpassed all these requirements. We need not pay particular attention to them, but when we perform any Baguazhang techniques these requirements are met, like we lower our waist and sink our chi to the dan tian. There are also requirements that other Baguazhang practitioners need to follow, like lifting up the anus and placing the tongue at the palate, but we don't have to, yet we still produce good or better results.

Why don't we need to follow requirements that Baguazhang masters have advised practitioners to follow, yet we still obtain good or better results? It is because from our normal training we have surpassed the level the requirements purport to attain. For example, lifting the anus and placing the tongue at the palate are to facilitate chi flow, but we already have good chi flow even without these requirements.

We have often mentioned that we practice high-level arts. Even without following these requirements we can attain a level higher than what the requirements aim at. This confirms our claim.

Specific Techniques of Bagua is also a modern publication based on classical material. It explains the application of specific Baguazhang techniques against 64 combat situations.

There are some sophisticated techniques on kicks or using the leg to fell opponents. But unless one is advanced in combat applications or learns from a master, he may not realize the sophisticated techniques even when there are short descriptions. The verbal descriptions, as usual, are inadequate to explain clearly how the transitional movements are performed.

Even if he can follow the pictures and descriptions, he will still miss many important combat points, such as timing and spacing. The pictures and descriptions may indicate a practitioner to move a step forward, for example, but without proper guidance from a competent teacher, a student may not know when to move or where to place his feet, which will render his technique ineffective.

A very important point a student is likely to miss if he learns from the book without guidance from a competent teacher is that he will expose himself in his movements. The illustrations in the book are well done, showing that both exponents in combat cover themselves adequately, but an unsuspecting student is likely to expose his vital points to be exploited by his opponent if he has not been properly trained.

Besides these classical sources I also have a collection of photographs and hand-written explanation on the 64 applications of Baguazhang sent to me many years ago by a Baguazhang master. They show some interesting and sophisticated applications. But uninformed readers would not understand them because the photographs indicate established forms, transitional movements are not shown.

This shortcoming is overcome with videos, and there are a lot of videos on YouTube. The following are just some random samples.

Here is a good video (of a series of videos) showing basic Baguazhang Circle Walking by Sifu Kent Howard of Wang Shu Jin's lineage.

Here is a video showing more advanced Baguazhang Circle Walking by Sifu Sun Zhi Jun.

Baguazhang masters are known to be old yet healthy and agile. Have a treat watching Sifu Lu Zi Jian who was 118 years old performing double sabres, rolling about on the floor.

Here is a performance of Old Bagua Palms by Sifu Liu Jing Nu.

The 64 Palms of Baguazhang are linked together into a set known as Swimming Dragon Set. There are various versions of the set, and here is a video showing one of them.

Here is a video showing some Baguazhang applications.

Here is another video on Baguazhang applications.

Baguazhang performed as wushu is beautiful to watch, though it may not be effective for combat. Here is a beautiful demonstration of Wushu Baguazhang.

Here are some Baguazhang sparring sets. It is obvious that they are performed as routines rather than for combat training. The video also shows some interesting specific techniques.

Baguazhang, Pakua Kungfu

Grandmaster Wong demonstrating Baguazhang Circle Walking

Although the performers of the Wushu Baguazhang as well as the sparring routines probably cannot use their art for combat, we can still learn a lot from the videos for combat application. There are many Baguazhang sparring sets on YouTube where practitioners perform them as mere routines. If we examine them, because of our trining, we can understand the combat applications of Baguazhang patterns, as well as how certain combat situations can be overcome.

Please note that there are two approaches here. One is from patterns to situations, i.e. we find out how Baguazhang patterns are used for combat. The other is from situations to patterns, i.e. if we are in a certain combat situation, how we can effectively handle it using an appropriate pattern.

Having a philosophical understanding, we can then put the patterns or the situations into practical use. A good way is to break up a sparring set into sequences, and practice them. Then further break up a sequence into smaller parts. Go over the parts in routine. Then practice the parts at random.

Regarding the "Songs" and "Methods" mentioned on the internet, the following are some of the differences between what is advised and what we do in our school.

This principle is also true in the Baguazhang we practice in our school, but not true in some styles, like the Monkey where the body is often bent forward to reduce its size, and the Drunken Eight Immortals where the body is purposely swayed from side to side for deception.

In Baguazhang as well as in all other styles, we usually keep our mouth gently open. We breathe in through the nose and breathe out through the mouth, or we may not worry about breathing at all. We can make any sounds, including the "hen" and "ha" sounds if we like, or we may not make any sounds. We can do this because of our chi flow.

We may follow the advice if we like, but it would not be as effective as our own way.

This advice does not apply to our school. We can step forward or backward with either leg because we can have good balance as well as agility by differentiating yin-yang. We can also step outside or inside the opponent depending on which side is advantageous for us.

This advice does not apply to us. According to this advice, when one strikes with his palm, the force must come from his shoulder as the shoulder is the root of the palm. The front palm and the rear palm must be coordinated according to this principle.

For us the root is at the dan tian. When we strike, our force issues from the dan tian. When we are advanced and our whole body is charged with energy, the root can be at the wrist. When we strike our force issues from our wrist, though eventually it comes from the dan tian. As soon as our force is expended in our strike, energy from the Cosmos flows in to fill our dan tian and other parts of our body when force has been used. We can do this because of our chi flow.

For us the spirit of Baguazhang is manifested in the whole body. When turning or twisting the head, the hands may move first, or later, or at the same time, or not at all, depending on which movement is most advantageous. Similarly, when moving the hands or any part of the body, the head or any part of the body may move first, later, at the same time or not at all.

Baguazhang, Pakua Kungfu

Grandmaster Wong demonstrating Baguazhang Circle Walking

This advice does not apply to us. We are not limited by such restrictions. If we strike an opponent, depending on which is most favorable, we can use our elbow, shoulder, waist or feet as the root, not necessary it must be the upper arm. If we desire to advance, we can step forward with either leg. Whatever we do it will not affect our spirit or the effectiveness of our action.

This is not true for us. While it is true that when internal force is issued from bones, it is more powerful than when it is issued from muscles, our advanced practitioners can cause more damage by issuing internal force from a palm or a finger. The internal force issued is different.

When issued from bones it is hard internal force, when issued from a palm or a finger it is soft internal force. Soft internal force can cause more damage than hard internal force like in Cosmos Palm when the force is issued from a palm, and dim mark when the force is issued from a finger.

Such damaging force can be issued from any position, with or without stepping forward. When force is exploded as in the advice above, hard force is channeled into an opponent by physical movement causing a smashing effect. When using a palm or a finger to channel force into an opponent, soft force is directed by mind to penetrate into the opponent to distort his energy network causing severe, and sometimes delayed, damage.

While rotating the waist is an effective way to move, and it is recommended for beginners so that they develop a good habit of movement, sometimes for some particular occasions it may be better just to move the feet while stepping forward or retreating without raising or moving the waist. This is often done in Xingyiquan when pressing into an opponent.

When one is well trained in rotating the waist while making any movement with the feet, the waist rotation can be so minimized while pressing forward as in Xingyiquan that it is not noticeable.

Hence, while these "Songs" and "Methods" are helpful to practitioners in general, some of them contradict what we normally do in our school. Not only we do not fail to get the results following the "Songs" and "Methods" is purported to give, we actually get better results by not following them!

This does not mean that the "Songs" and "Methods" are misleading. Indeed, Baguazhang practitioners in general should follow these "Songs" and "Methods". But we are different. We are elite. Because of the tremendous benefits we get from our other training, like chi flow in chi kung, solidness in Shaolin Kungfu and fluidity in Taijiquan, we can forgo these "Songs" and "Methods" and still get better results than what these "Songs" and "Methods" aim to give. This is the advantage of breadth and depth.

An analogy can make this clearer. If you are a learner-driver, you have to follow driving instructions precisely, like adjusting your seat and mirrors, holding the steering-wheel correctly and placing your feet properly. But if you are an expert driver, you may ignore these instructions yet drive more safely and efficiently.

In the same way, although you may have practiced Baguazhang for a short time, your performance of and benefits from Baguazhang may be better than those who have practiced for years. One main reason, besides the advantage of breadth and depth you get from our school, is that we have resources to what past masters have discovered and passed on to us in classics.

The questions and answers are reproduced from the thread 10 Questions to Grandmaster Wong -- Baguazhang (Pakua Kungfu) in the Shaolin Wahnam Discussion Forum.